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Battles Of The Week: Hank Pym vs Wasp (Hero vs Heroine)

 

BATTLES OF THE WEEK

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Writers and Artists

Steve Englehart and Al Milgrom.

SYNOPSIS FOR “DEATH AND TEXAS!”

The West Coast Avengers travel to the Death Dimension to rescue the Avengers. But they must battle each other.

In the battle of the sexes, Hank Pym battles Wasp.

IN ROMANCE

FOR ANNIVERSARIES: WHO WINS THE BATTLE OF THE SEXES? HANK PYM VS WASP
West Coast Avengers Annual (1987) #2. Marvel Comics.

Enter the contestants in the Death Dimension. On the left side is Hank Pym and on the right side is the Wasp alias Janet Van Dyne.

Let’s look at the stats.

HANK PYM – EARTH-616
Super Strength: Athlete 8%
Super Speed: Peak Human 17%
Durability: Building 17%
Energy Projection: Room 17%
Fighting Skills: Combatant 33%
Intelligence: Inventor 50%
PARAPHERNALIA
  • Toolbot.
  • Stingers.
WEAKNESSES
  • Mental illness.
WASP – EARTH-616
Super Strength: Athlete 8%
Super Speed: Metahuman 25%
Durability: Metahuman 17%
Energy Projection: Metahuman 17%
Fighting Skills: Combatant 33%
Intelligence: Field Experience 25%
PARAPHERNALIA
  • Wasp’s suit.

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THE FIGHT

In the battle of the sexes, a depowered Hank Pym fights the Wasp in the Death Dimension.

The battle to decide who is the best Avenger! Toggle Wasp’s Negative Damage under our Damage Points to find out the power of Hank Pym’s Stingers.

DAMAGE SCALE

DAMAGE POINTS





A battle of the sexes between two Avengers in the Death Dimensions.
HANK PYM BLUNT FORCE (x3) + ENERGY MANIPULATION (x3) ATTACKS: 1 DAMAGE PT (x3) + 6 DAMAGE PTS (x3) = 21 DAMAGE PTS.
WASP ENERGY MANIPULATION (x5) ATTACKS: 6 DAMAGE PTS (x5) = 30 DAMAGE PTS.

TOTAL DAMAGE POINTS


HANK’S NEGATIVE DAMAGE:

Toggle the Toggle Arrow below to view the calculations.

-30 DAMAGE PTS.

Tensile Strength Of Plexiglass = 62100000 J = 0.01478571428 Ton of TNT.
-(30 DAMAGE PTS * 56072.5929798 J * 1 Ton of TNT)/(4.2*10^9 J) = -0.00040051852 ​PTS * Ton of TNT.
Hank’s Durability = (-0.00040051852 ​PTS * Ton of TNT)/(0.01478571428 Ton of TNT) = 0.02708820909 PTS.
Durability = 2 – 0.03 = 1.97 PTS = BUILDING.



DURABILITY: BUILDING

Durability: Building 16%
WASP’S NEGATIVE DAMAGE:

Toggle the Toggle Arrow below to view the calculations.

-21 DAMAGE PTS.

Wasp’s Sting x3 = 56072.5929798*3*4 = 672871.115758 J = 0.0001602074 Ton of TNT.
-(21 DAMAGE PTS * 56072.5929798 J * 1 Ton of TNT)/(4.2*10^9 J) = -0.00028036296 ​PTS * Ton of TNT.
Captain Atom’s Durability = (-0.00028036296 ​PTS * Ton of TNT)/(0.0001602074 Ton of TNT) = -2.33333341656 PTS.
Durability = 2 – 1.75 = 0.25 PTS = ATHLETE.



DURABILITY: ATHLETE

Durability: Athlete 2%

WINNER: HANK PYM WINS BY INCAPACITATION

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HANK PYM IN COMICS

HANK PYM'S FIRST APPEARANCE

Tales To Astonish (1961) #27, titled “The Man in the Ant Hill!”, marks the first appearance of Ant-Man in Marvel continuity. Importantly, the comic is the origin story of Ant-Man who discovers the Pym Particles.

Also, the story was written by Stan Lee, Larry Lieber and penciled by Jack Kirby.

ANT-MAN’S ASTONISHING FIRST APPEARANCE!
Tales To Astonish (1961) #27, titled “The Man in the Ant Hill!”, marks the first appearance of Ant-Man in Marvel continuity. Marvel Comics.

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DC Day Series: Batman Is Plagued By Femme Fatales (And “Hush”)

 

DC DAY SERIES

In 'Batman' (2003) #610, Batman and Catwoman share a kiss under the full moon in Gotham City.
In Batman (2003) #610, Batman and Catwoman share a kiss. DC Comics

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IN ROMANCE

INTRO

Over his long storied history, Batman has been incarnated in various media: comic, live-action series and movies, video games, radio and more. Importantly, what has seized the fans’ imagination seems to have been the Dark Knight’s tortured but disciplined humanity. Though Batman may have demons, he always seems to come out on top. And he always comes to a battle prepared with ten moves ahead.

However, in the romance department Batman seems to consistently fail to form lasting relationships. Since DC Universe Rebirth, has that changed? Let’s explain.

The TV Regent

#BATGOD OR #BATNINJA?

Batman Begins. WB.

In his multiple relationships, Batman has always seemed to remain aloof. In addition, he has struggled with trust and the ability to manage both his romantic relationships and his crusading as the Dark Knight.

From our previous article, we continue the central question of our series: Do his relationships with his femme fatales, bring out the best in Batman making him a #Batgod, or the worst in Batman making him a #Batninja?

*This image is copyright-reserved to James on Flickr and is titled Brooding Batman.

WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING

OUR POLL

So far, the Twitter audience has given one vote to Talia Al Ghul.

Let’s look at four of Batman’s femme fatales and explain how they affect whether they are #Batgod or #Batninja.

 

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BATMAN’S FEMME FATALES

BAT-NINJA: TALIA AL GHUL

Perhaps, one of Batman’s most dangerous loves. In fact, Talia Al Ghul loves and is loyal to two men: Her father Ra’s Al Ghul and Batman her lover. Without a doubt, her loyalty to her father has often caused conflict with Batman. In Tower of Babel, she breached Batman’s trust in order to steal his contingency plans and attacks the JLA. Later, Robin: Son of Batman popularized in Damian Wayne’s solo title the truth he was Batman’s and Talia al Ghul’s.

For years, Talia hid his existence from the boy’s father. Moreover, she trained Damian in the League of Asssassins. Also, to complicate matters, in Deathstroke vs Batman, Talia arranged for Damian’s false paternity tests in order to start a feud between the rivals. Though Talia has helped Batman on many occasions, she definitely brings the worst in him. Definitely, Batman is her Bat-ninja.

In 'Deathstroke' (2018) #30, Batman fights Deathstroke.
In Deathstroke (2018) #30, Batman fights Deathstroke. DC Comics.

BAT-GOD: WONDER WOMAN

Really, this relationship has remained more of an infatuation and respect than anything else. Within the Trinity, Wonder Woman has held a close bond with Batman and perhaps, a closer one with Superman. In fact, the Superman-Wonder Woman romance takes its starting point from their impossible romance while fighting a thousand years in Valhalla.

For their part, Wonder Woman seems drawn to Batman’s decisiveness, mystery and solitude. During their battles, they naturally grew close together. During “JLA: Obsidian Age,” they even shared a kiss. However, nothing long-lasting came of it. For their mutual respect and burgeoning romance, Wonder Woman definitely makes Batman into a Bat-god.

In JLA (2002) #74, Batman and Wonder Woman share a kiss. DC Comics.

BAT-NINJA: POISON IVY

Perhaps, a strong contender for Batman’s most passionate flame. Initially, Batman mistook his feelings for Pamela Isley as love. In reality, as a chlorokinetic, Poison Ivy can manipulate men’s and women’s emotions with pheromones. On many occasions, Poison Ivy has attempted to kill the Dark Knight.

On other instances, she has longed for a relationship with him. In Feat: Batman, Batman: Gotham Knights #64, we explain how Batman cured Pamela Isley of her chlorokinesis. Later, the two would have a relationship that ended on Pamela’s suicide attempt. Definitely, Pamela brings the worst in the Caped Crusader as her Bat-ninja.

In Batman: Legends Of The Dark Knight (1993) #43, Poison Ivy’s kiss causes Batman to hallucinate. DC Comics.

BAT-GOD: CATWOMAN

Over 82 years of shared history, Catwoman has been the relationship that has suited Batman the best. At times tense, at times passionate. Also, at times supportive, at times cheating. At the same time, though they ultimately did not trust each other in Hush, their relationship blossomed over the years. In Tom King’s DC Rebirth run on Batman (2016), Batman actually proposes to Catwoman.

Certainly, a monumental shift which even leads to her pregnancy. However, the pair ends up not marrying. Nonetheless, it appears Catwoman has been a constant in the Bat-family and continues to support the Bat in times of need. Definitely, Batman is Catwoman’s Bat-god and their relationship truly helps both.

In 'Batman' (2003) #610, Batman and Catwoman share a kiss under the full moon in Gotham City.
In Batman (2003) #610, Batman and Catwoman share a kiss. DC Comics

 

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THAT FAMOUS BAT-KICK

In Batman, ‘Batman vs The Incredible Hulk’ #1, we rated Batman’s notorious Bat-kick in the DC/Marvel crossover from the 1980s.

Given Hulk’s tough skin and “oversized lungs”, no one outside of at least a Metahuman Level in Strength Class could have caused Hulk’s reflex.1 Evidently, Batman kicked Hulk at a pressure point, the solar plexus.

In terms of Strength Level, Hulk’s oversized lungs would have necessitated approximately a Planetary Level of Super Strength in order to gasp for air.

For this reason, in order to save appearances, we can state that the Bat-kick likely required Bat-ninja Fighting Skills with chi manipulation. Or blame it on Deus Ex Machina.

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DC Day: With Ollie On Trial For Prometheus’ Murder, Dinah Ends Their Marriage

In 'Green Arrow' (2007) #75, Ollie proposes to Dinah.
 

MARVEL DAY

Writer(s)

James Robinson


Penciler(s)

Mauro Cascioli


Inker(s)

Mauro Cascioli


Colorist(s)

Mauro Cascioli


Cover

Mauro Cascioli


Publisher

DC Comics


Publication Date

September, 2009

WARNING: THIS ARTICLE CONTAINS NUDITY

IN ROMANCE

DINAH REJECTED OLLIE’S FIRST MARRIAGE PROPOSAL

On DC Earth, few couples have had as rocky a relationship as Green Arrow and Black Canary. In Green Arrow: The Longbow Hunters (1987), Ollie asks Dinah to marry him. To begin, Oliver and Dinah have recently re-located from Star City. Moreover, Ollie bought a home in Seattle.

Recently, a serial killer called “The Seattle Slasher” has surfaced. Worryingly, Ollie is concerned he may not always be Green Arrow. For this reason, he asks Dinah to marry him. Decisively, the heroine rejects his proposal as she is worried about bringing into their crime-fighting lives and is happily satisfied with their relationship.

In 'Green Arrow: The Longbow Hunters,' Ollie asks Dinah to marry him.
In Green Arrow: The Longbow Hunters (1987), Ollie asks Dinah to marry him. DC Comics.

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DINAH LOSES HER SONIC CRY AFTER BEING TORTURED; LATER, OLLIE IS KILLED

In Green Arrow: The Longbow Hunters (1987) #2, Black Canary is tortured. After Dinah investigates a lead on the cocaine trade, she is captured. Fortunately, Green Arrow is able to track and locate her. In a warehouse by the docks, Dinah is being tortured. With the help of the mysterious Shado, Ollie rescues Dinah.

In the following Green Arrow series, Dinah becomes a supporting character for Ollie. During the series, Dinah never uses her sonic cry as a result of the torture. During that time, she quits Justice League International. When she believes Oliver cheater on her, she break up with him. Before the couple can re-unite, Ollie is killed in Green Arrow #101 helping Superman save Metropolis.

In 'Green Arrow' (1995) #101, Green Arrow dies saving Metropolis.
In Green Arrow (1995) #101, Green Arrow dies saving Metropolis. DC Comics.

FINALLY DINAH ACCEPTS TO MARRY OLLIE

In 'Green Arrow' (2007) #75, Ollie proposes to Dinah.
In Green Arrow (2007) #75, Ollie proposes to Dinah. DC Comics.

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AFTER FINAL CRISIS, DINAH LEAVES OLLIE ON TRIAL FOR PROMETHEUS’ MURDER

In Justice League: Cry For Justice (2009), Hal Jordan forms a more violent and pro-active Justice League. After Final Crisis, Atom (Ryan Choi), Atom (Ray Palmer), Hal Jordan, Congorilla, Green Arrow, Starman, and Supergirl hunt down Prometheus.

In Justice League: Cry For Justice (2010) #6, the JL uncovers Prometheus’ plan: infiltrate and use the Watchtower’s teleportation device to teleport the heroes’ home cities across time and space.

In 'Justice League: Cry For Justice' (2010) #7, Green Arrow kills Prometheus with an arrow.
In Justice League: Cry For Justice (2010) #7, Green Arrow kills Prometheus with an arrow. Marvel Comics.

When the JL accepts to let him go, Prometheus gives them the codes to each device in each city. However, Star City’s device was the first to activate leading to destruction in the city. After the death of Lian Harper, Speedy’s daughter, Ollie avenges him.

In Justice League: Cry For Justice (2010) #7, he locates Prometheus and strikes an arrow through his head. Later, during his trial, Dinah ends their marriage. In the end, Ollie is acquitted of murder charges.

Dinah ends her marriage with Ollie.
Dinah ends her marriage with Ollie. DC Comics.

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LINKS

Green Arrow And Black Canary: A Rocky Love Affair in CBR.com.
Green Arrow: The Longbow Hunters in DC Database.
Green Arrow: The Longbow Hunters Vol 1 2 in DC Database.
Green Arrow #101 in Comic Vine.
Green Arrow Vol 3 75 in DC Database.
Justice League: Cry for Justice in DC Database.
Justice League: Cry for Justice #6 in Comic Vine.
Justice League: Cry for Justice Vol 1 7 in DC Database.

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Marvel Day: In “Ring Of Fire,” Rogue and Gambit Re-unite As An X-Men couple.

In 'Rogue And Gambit' (2018) #5, Rogue and Gambit re-unite.
 
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MARVEL DAY

In 'Rogue And Gambit' (2018) #5, Rogue and Gambit re-unite.
In ‘Rogue And Gambit’ (2018) #5, Rogue and Gambit re-unite. AP Photo/Marvel Comics
Official Name

Ring Of Fire

Universe

Earth-616

Heroes

Rogue, Gambit, Kitty Pryde, Storm.

Villains

Lavish, Dr. Grand, Golems

Creators

Kelly Thompson and Pere Perez.

IN ROMANCE

KITTY PRYDE SENDS ROGUE AND GAMBIT ON A MISSION TO PARAISO WHERE MUTANT COUPLES ARE DISAPPEARING

In ‘Rogue & Gambit’ (2018) #1, Rogue and Gambit are sent by Kitty Pryde to Paraiso as an X-Men couple. In summary, mutant couples are disappearing at Paraiso and Rogue and Gambit are sent to investigate. At the beginning of the issue, Rogue is training with the X-Men student body in the Danger Room. Gambit has been called in by Kitty and is sent into the Danger Room by Ororo.

During the training, Gambit saves Rogue from a Sentinel pinning her to the ground. At the end, Gambit and Rogue attempt to reconcile their past feelings. Meanwhile, the X-man is called in by Headmistress Kitty Pryde. She finds out about the mutant disappearances in Paraiso and that Gambit has been called in by Kitty in order to send them both into therapy retreat as an undercover X-Men couple.

In 'Rogue & Gambit' (2015) #1, Kitty Pryde sends Rogue and Gambit to therapy retreat on Paraiso as an undercover mission.
In ‘Rogue & Gambit’ (2015) #1, Kitty Pryde sends Rogue and Gambit to therapy retreat on Paraiso as an undercover mission. AP Photo/Marvel Comics.

IT’S A RING OF FIRE AND TELEPATHY IS AGAIN MANIPULATING ROGUE’S AND GAMBIT’S FEELINGS

In ‘Rogue & Gambit’ (2018) #2, telepathy is again manipulating Rogue’s and Gambit’s feelings for each other. After brain screenings, Anna and Remy have couple therapy with Dr. Grand. Interestingly, they reveal different accounts of their first encounter. Strangely, Rogue only remembers their first encounter as the result of the Shadow King’s telepathic manipulation on Muir Island. Doubtfully, she remembers her feelings for Gambit as the result of the Shadow King’s manipulation and as not being real.

Gambit reveals their first encounter was actually a fight on Muir Island manipulated by the Shadow King. Though Gambit won the fight, it was love at first sight and ended in a kiss. At night, the X-Men couple goes to investigate the Paraiso Island Hospital. They stalk the air ducts and infiltrate the lab. There, they are greeted by a super-powered hit squad and engage them. Accidentally, they find a lab with golems being experimented upon.

In 'Rogue & Gambit' (2018) #2, Rogue and Gambit fight golems at the Paraiso Island Hospital.
In ‘Rogue & Gambit’ (2018) #2, Rogue and Gambit fight golems at the Paraiso Island Hospital. AP Photo/Marvel Comics.

ROGUE AND GAMBIT HAVE SEX

In 'Rogue & Gambit' (2018) #3, Rogue and Gambit have sex.
In ‘Rogue & Gambit’ (2018) #3, Rogue and Gambit have sex. AP Photo/Marvel Comics.

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IN THE FINAL ISSUE, IT’S ROGUE AND GAMBIT VS THE GOLEMS AND LAVISH

In ‘Rogue & Gambit’ (2018) #4, the X-Men couple uncovers the truth about Paraiso Island. As a matter of fact, a golem supervillain is attracting mutant couples to the island in order to steal their super powers and their memories and create clones or golems of them. Rogue and Gambit realize the reason they have been loving each other is because Lavish has been feeding on their bad memories. With their super powers fading, Rogue and Gambit must fight Rogue and Gambit golems.

In ‘Rogue & Gambit’ (2018) #5, Rogue finds out they can both exchange their super powers and get their memories back at a cost. Indeed, they must live with the memories of the pain they have caused each other. Thus, Rogue decides to absorb the powers and the memories of all the golems and return them to all the other couples on Paraiso Island. In the end, even though their feelings have been tampered with, Rogue decides to be re-united with Gambit. Finally, the X-Men couple shares a kiss.

In 'Rogue And Gambit' (2018) #5, Rogue and Gambit re-unite.
In ‘Rogue And Gambit’ (2018) #5, Rogue and Gambit re-unite. AP Photo/Marvel Comics

SOURCES

Rogue & Gambit Vol 1 5 in Marvel Database.
Rogue & Gambit Vol 1 1 in Marvel Database.
Rogue & Gambit Vol 1 2 in Marvel Database.
Rogue & Gambit Vol 1 3 in Marvel Database.
Rogue & Gambit Vol 1 4 in Marvel Database.