Fan Theory: Miles Morales In The Mainstream Marvel Universe Means The Ultimate Universe Was Rebooted After Secret Wars

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In 'Secret Wars' (2016) #9, Doctor Doom and Mister Fantastic battle in Molecule Man's white hot room.
In ‘Secret Wars’ (2016) #9, Doctor Doom and Mister Fantastic battle in Molecule Man’s white room. AP Photo/Marvel Comics.

IN UNIVERSAL AND MULTIVERSAL ANOMALIES

“SECRET WARS” REBOOTED THE MARVEL MULTIVERSE

In “Secret Wars” (2015), the Marvel multiverse is being destroyed by the multiversal entities known as the Beyonders. Only two remaining universes remain: the main Marvel universe and the Ultimate universe. In the Beyond, Doctor Doom meets with the Beyonders in order to save the remaining universes. Originlly, Molecule Man was designed by the Beyonders as a bomb that would destroy the multiverse. Using Molecule Men as bombs, Doctor Doom and Doctor Strange killed the Beyonders and stole their power.

During the incursions between Earth-616 and Earth-1610, Mister Fantastic built the Future Foundation Life Rafts to transport the survivors to the incursion points. Suffering a hull breach, they nevertheless survived and were transported to Battleworld, created by Doctor Doom. On Battleworld, Doctor Doom was worshipped as God on a world of controlled chaos. There, the Life Raft and the Cabal opposed Doom’s reign. In the end, Doom was defeated and Molecule Man destroyed Battleworld, rebooting the mainstream Marvel universe. In the end, the Ultimate universe was no more.

In 'Secret Wars' (2016) #9, Doctor Doom and Mister Fantastic battle in Molecule Man's white hot room.
In ‘Secret Wars’ (2016) #9, Doctor Doom and Mister Fantastic battle in Molecule Man’s white room. AP Photo/Marvel Comics.

MILES MORALES JOINED THE MAINSTREAM MARVEL UNIVERSE

In ‘Secret Wars’ (2015) #6, the Maker’s and Reed Richards plans are set into motion. Miles Morales and Spider-Man go off to the White Room to find Doom’s source of power. There, in front of Molecule Man’s statue, they find Valeria, Doctor Doom’s daughter on Battleworld but who is actually Reed Richards’ daughter. After a brief discussion with her, the two Spider-Men enter the white room. Inside, they find Molecule Man there who asks them if they brought him something to eat. Surprisingly, Miles Morales takes out a three week-old hamburger from his pocket and gives it to Molecule Man.

Fully fed, Spider-Man asks Molecule Man about Doctor Doom’s power source. Molecule Man tells them they are looking at him. In ‘Secret Wars’ (2016) #9, Miles Morales has a flashback to that moment. In the white room, Molecule Man thanks him for the burger. It is implied that Molecule Man saved Miles Morales and his family in the new mainstream Marvel universe. In the present, the two Spider-Men are on a rooftop and after Peter checks if Miles has done his homework, the two Spider-Men swing into adventure to go beat up on bad guys.

In 'Secret Wars' (2016) #9, Miles Morales joins the mainstream Marvel universe.
In ‘Secret Wars’ (2016) #9, Miles Morales joins the mainstream Marvel universe. AP Photo/Marvel Comics.

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VENOM WARNS THE MAKER SEEKS TO RE-CREATE THE ULTIMATE UNIVERSE

In ‘Venom’ (2021) #200, the Ultimate universe resurfaces. Now, Eddie Brock has become the new King in Black and is testing his super powers. After testing his omniscience, he notes the only one escaping his power is the Maker, Reed Richards’ evil counterpart from the Ultimate universe. Having obtained an artificial symbiote from the Ultimate universe, the Maker used Venom‘s symbiote to augment and heal his psyche.

Able to travel between dimensions, the Maker returned to the Ultimate universe, which was destroyed. Then, Eddie uses his super powers to meet simultaneously the Avengers, Quiet Council of Krakoa, the Guardians of the Galaxy, Silver Surfer and other groups to warn them tat the Maker will likely return to conquer Earth-616. In fact, this task has been commissioned him by the Interdimensional Council of Reeds. In all likelihood, it is possible the Ultimate universe was rebooted after “Secret Wars.”

In 'Venom' (2021) #200, the Maker returns to the Ultimate Universe using the Venom symbiote.
In ‘Venom’ (2021) #200, the Maker returns to the Ultimate Universe using the Venom symbiote. AP Photo/Marvel Comics.

SOURCES

Secret Wars Vol 1 9 in Marvel Database.
Secret Wars Vol 1 6 in Marvel Database.
Venom Vol 4 35 in Marvel Database.

Feat: Molecule Man, ‘Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars’ #4

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MOLECULE MAN (OWEN REECE)
EARTH-616

In ‘Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars’ (1984) #4, titled “Situation Hopeless”, Molecule Man performs an energy projection feat. The villains have attacked and destroyed the heroes’ base. As the heroes are in retreat, Molecule Man drops a 150-billion ton mountain on the heroes, seemingly killing them.

How much energy projection does it take for Molecule Man to drop a 150-billion ton mountain on the heroes with molecular manipulation?

MOLECULE MAN LIFTED, TRANSPORTED, HOVERED 100 MILE HIGH AND DROPPED A 150-BILLION TON MOUNTAIN ON THE HEROES.

MOLECULE MAN GENERATED 7.5*10^21 JOULES OF KINETIC ENERGY AT 10000 METERS PER SECOND AND 2.3681438*10^20 JOULES OF POTENTIAL ENERGY 100 MILES ABOVE THE GROUND.

MOLECULE MAN GENERATED 7.7368144*10^21 JOULES OF TOTAL ENERGY, 18 TIMES THE ENERGY RECEIVED BY EARTH FROM THE SUN, ENOUGH TO DESTROY A SMALL COUNTRY.

ENERGY PROJECTION FEAT:

PLANETARY

                       

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Doctor Doom and the villains have destroyed the heroes’ base. As the heroes retreat, Molecule Man drops a mountain on them, seemingly killing them.

We will use the formula for potential energy in order to calculate Molecule Man’s energy projection.

NUMBER CRUNCHING

The calculations involve calculating how much energy projection it would take to remove the mountain off the ground, and how much it would take to drop the mountain on the heroes. Calculating a lift force for a mountain would be complex. For the interest of simplicity, we will only calculate the kinetic energy for transporting the mountain across 10 km and the potential energy before dropping it on the heroes.

KE = 1/2mv^2 = (1/2)(150*10^12 kg)(10^8 m/s) = 7.5*10^21 J.

PE = mgh = (150*10^12 kg)(9.81 m/s^2)(160934 m) = 2.3681438*10^20 J.

Total Energy = 7.7368144*10^21 J.

ENERGY PROJECTION

Molecule Man lifted a mountain, transported it across Battleworld within moments, hovered it 100 miles above the heroes and dropped it on them.

Molecule Man generated 7.7368144*10^21 Joules of energy. Assuming Battleworld is roughly the size of Earth, Molecule Man had to generate a Planetary Level of Energy Projection.

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Calculations for Molecule Man, ‘Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars’ #4

KE = 1/2mv^2 = (1/2)(150*10^12 kg)(10^8 m/s) = 7.5*10^21 J.
PE = mgh = (150*10^12 kg)(9.81 m/s^2)(160934 m) = 2.3681438*10^20 J.
Total Energy = 7.7368144*10^21 J.
Ratio Of Energy versus Earth = (7.7368144*10^21)/(430*10^18) = 18.


SOURCES

Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars Vol 1 4 in Marvel Database.

Feat: Sentry, ‘Dark Avengers’ #12

IN SUPERVILLAINS

SENTRY (ROBERT REYNOLDS)
EARTH-616

In ‘Dark Avengers’ (2006) #611, Sentry performs an energy projection feat. At Dinosaur, Colorado, Sentry intervenes to rescue the Dark Avengers from the Molecule Man. During the battle, Sentry demolecularizes Molecule Man.

How much energy projection does it take for Sentry to demolecularize Molecule Man?

SENTRY DEMOLECULARIZED MOLECULE MAN BY DESTABILIZING THE BOND ENTHALPY OF HIS BODY COMPRISING 7*10^27 ATOMS.

SENTRY GENERATED THE EQUIVALENT OF 1094309379.56 JOULES OF BOND ENTHALPY, ENOUGH TO DESTROY A BUILDING.

ENERGY PROJECTION FEAT:

CONTINENT

                   

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Sentry demolecularized Molecule Man in order to force him to restore the Dark Avengers and the people at Dinosaur, Colorado. In order to calculate the energy projection, we will calculate the bond enthalpies of the proteins, fats, carbohydrates, salt and water found in Owen Reece’s 63.5 kg body.

NUMBER CRUNCHING

Sentry demolecularized Molecule Man. This involves separating the covalent, ionic and hydrogen bonds between Molecule Man’s proteins, fats, carbohydrates, nucleic acids and salt molecules.

We use “Chemical Composition Of The Human Body” to find their percentages.

Bond Enthalpy Of Palmitate In Human Body = (208000 J/mol)(1 mol/256.4 g)(70000 g0.16) = 9085803.43214 J.
Bond Enthalpy Of Protein In Human Body = (1500 J/mol)(1 mol/12100 g)(70000 g0.16) = 1388.42975207 J.
Bond Enthalpy Of Glucose In Human Body = (9546000 J/mol)(1 mol/180.16 g)(70000 g0.01) = 37090364.1208 J.
Bond Enthalpy Of Salt = (760000 J/mol)(1 mol/58.443 g)(70000 g0.06) = 54617319.4395 J.
Bond Enthalpy Of Water = (458900 J/mol)(1 mol/18.01528 g)(70000 g*0.62) = 1105520424.88 J.

The total bond enthalpy in Molecule Man’s 63.5 kg body is found from the total bond enthalpy above multiplied by the 63.5 kg/70 kg ratio.

Total Bond Enthalpy In Molecule Man’s Body = (63.5 kg/70 kg)(1206325300.3 J) = 1094309379.56 J.

ENERGY PROJECTION

Sentry demolecularized Molecule Man by dissociating all the bonds in Molecule Man’s 63.5 kg body.

Sentry generated 1094309379.56 Joules of biochemical energy to demolecularize Molecule Man. Sentrt had to generate a Continent Level of Energy Projection.

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Calculations for Sentry, ‘Dark Avengers’ #12

Number Of Atoms In A 70 Kg Body = 7*10^27 atoms.
Bond Enthalpy Of Palmitate = 208000 J/mol.
Bond Enthalpy Of Protein = 1500 J/mol.
Bond Enthalpy Of Glucose = 9546000 J/mol.
Bond Enthalpy Of Salt = 760000 J/mol.
Bytes Of Information In A Human Brain = 2.5*10^15 Bytes.

7.5 Strengths of Ionic and Covalent Bonds
https://www.sciencefocus.com/the-human-body/how-much-salt-is-in-a-human-body/#:~:text=The%20human%20body%20contains%20many,sodium%20chloride%20%E2%80%93%20around%2040%20teaspoons.

Bond Enthalpy Of Palmitate In Human Body = (208000 J/mol)(1 mol/256.4 g)(70000 g*0.16) = 9085803.43214 J.
Bond Enthalpy Of Protein In Human Body = (1500 J/mol)(1 mol/12100 g)(70000 g*0.16) = 1388.42975207 J.
Bond Enthalpy Of Glucose In Human Body = (9546000 J/mol)(1 mol/180.16 g)(70000 g*0.01) = 37090364.1208 J.
Bond Enthalpy Of Salt = (760000 J/mol)(1 mol/58.443 g)(70000 g*0.06) = 54617319.4395 J.
Bond Enthalpy Of Water = (458900 J/mol)(1 mol/18.01528 g)(70000 g*0.62) = 1105520424.88 J.
Total Bond Enthalpy In Human Body = 9085803.43214 J + 11388.42975207 J + 37090364.1208 J + 54617319.4395 J + 1105520424.88 J = 1206325300.3 J.
Total Bond Enthalpy In Molecule Man’s Body = (63.5 kg/70 kg)(1206325300.3 J) = 1094309379.56 J.


SOURCES

Dark Avengers Vol 1 12 in Marvel Database.
Owen Reece (Earth-616) in Marvel Database.
Robert Reynolds (Earth-616) in Marvel Database.
Chemical Composition of the Human Body in ThoughtCo.