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Marvel Day: The Day When He Discovered The Overspace, The Cosmic Entity Called Eternity Dubbed Hank Pym “The Scientist Supreme”

 

MARVEL DAY

Writer(s)

Dan Slott, Christos N. Gage


Penciler(s)

Sean Chen


Colorist(s)

John Rauch


Cover

Marko Djurdjevic


Publisher

Marvel Comics


Publication Date

October 21,2009

IN INVENTIONS AND SCIENTIFIC MARVELS

ETERNITY DUBS HANK PYM “EARTH’S SCIENTIST SUPREME”1

In Mighty Avengers (2009) #30, Hank Pym discovers Overspace. Previously, Mister Fantastic discovered the dimension. Now, Hank uses the Pym Particles. In an instant, he increases his size past the Macroverse. Then, he reaches a boundless space beyond space and time. There, the cosmic entity called Eternity greets him. After a brief scuffle, Eternity has a talk with Hank. Indeed, Eternity thanks Hank for curing him of his astral cancer.

But Hank questions why Eternity did not call Earth’s Sorcerer Supreme. Importantly, Eternity names Hank, “Earth’s Scientist Supreme.”1 Indeed, among Earth’s super geniuses, Hank Pym is the Mage. In fact, Eternity acknowledges Mister Fantastic as the Explorer is smarter. And Tony Stark as the Engineer uses science to shape the world. But Ant-Man does the impossible, taking science to the point of magic. Now, Hank is his champion to whom he entrusts the future.

Overspace.
Overspace. Marvel Comics.
 

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HANK PYM’S INVENTIONS AND DISCOVERIES

PYM PARTICLES

Perhaps, Ant-Man’s most well-known invention. Originally, Hank Pym discovered the Pym Particles. Early on, he synthesized a serum that shrinks matter in mass and size. First, he tested it on a chair which shrank. Then, he tested it on himself which shrank him to ant-size. Eventually, he was able to use the Pym Particles to increase his mass and size. Importantly, the Pym Particles allowed the user to bypass the Square-Cube law of physics.

ULTRON

Definitely, Hank Pym’s failure. Once a promising scientist, Hank’s inventions started to fail. When he invented Ultron, it was a breakthrough of Artificial Intelligence. However, Ultron grew to sentience, hypnotized Hank and made him forget. Soon, Ultron evolved and improved his design. Later, he would form the Masters of Evil and combat the Avengers. Also, Ultron would create Vision. Visit our Avengers: Rage of Ultron review and learn about Vision vs Ultron.

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Mighty Avengers (2009) #30. Marvel Comics.

CYBERNETIC HELMET

Indeed, you may have seen in the Ant-Man movie, his trademark invention, the Cybernetic Helmet. With it, the superhero telepathically controls hordes of ants and even flying insects. Really, one of his most ingenious inventions proving he is a man of magic.

MACROVERSE AND MICROVERSE

With the Pym Particles, Hank Pym can absorb subatomic particles from the Kosmos dimension. Effectively, he shunts extra-dimensional matter into the Prime Universe. Moreover, his enlarging and shrinking super powers allowed him to discover the Macroverse and the Microverse.

SIMILAR STORIES

ORIGIN STORIES

TEAM-UPS AND CROSSOVERS

CRISIS

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LINKS

Mighty Avengers Vol 1 30 in Marvel Database.
Glossary:Square-cube law in Marvel Database.


FOOTNOTES

  1. Mighty Avengers #30.
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The Formidable Warriors List: ‘Warlock and The Infinity Watch’ Was A Commercial Success For Marvel’s Cosmic Stories

 

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THE FORMIDABLE WARRIORS LIST

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IN FRANCHISES, COMIC VALUES AND COLLECTIONS

THE FORMIDABLE WARRIORS LIST

In our new hotness, we have The Formidable Warriors List. Here, we cover the greatest battles of a particular character in a comic or series, and how it made it a best-seller. In our new hotness for January, is Adam Warlock in Warlock and The Infinity Watch (1991) #1.

First, let’s reveal a poll on Twitter. Then, let’s show how it was a success.

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WHY ADAM WARLOCK IS ON THE FORMIDABLE WARRIORS LIST

Warlock and the Infinity Watch (1991) #1. Marvel Comics.

INFINITY GAUNTLET SEQUEL

Namely, Warlock and the Infinity Watch (1991) #1 is the sequel to the classic Infinity Gauntlet story that skyrocketed Thanos into super-stardom in the Marvel Universe. In a few words, Adam Warlock has led the Marvel Universe against the threat of Thanos.

Now, having successfully defeated Thanos and ended the threat, he has claimed the mantle of the Supreme Being of the Marvel Universe with the Infinity Gauntlet. Really, it does not get better than this!

THE BATTLE THAT SOLD THE RUN

Importantly, the abstract stand-off between Adam Warlock and Living Tribunal sold the run from the beginning. Let’s explain. In the Star Chamber, it’s getting hotter.

There, an assemblage of cosmic entities and abstract level beings are hearing Eternity’s suit against Adam Warlock, the Supreme Being. When Eternity questions Warlock’s supemacy, Adam’s temper fires a powerful blast that fells everyone.

However, with a snap, Living Tribunal restores order.

In Warlock and the Infinity Watch (1991) #1, Living Tribunal restores order with a finger snap. Marvel Comics.

Then, Eternity presents his case detailing Warlock’s creation, character evolution, his sado-masochistic tendencies as well as his darkest secret. After he has finished his suit, the powerful stand-off of unimaginable might between two omnipotent beings follows!

In 'Warlock and The Infinity Watch (1992) #1, the confrontation between the Living Tribunal and Adam Warlock with the Infinity Gauntlet would lay waste to reality.
In Warlock and the Infinity Watch (1991) #1, Adam Warlock and Living Tribunal stand-off. Marvel Comics.

Certainly, you will have to read the issue to see how it ends. However, the first issue does set the tone for the run and does reveal the creative team’s ambitions. Definitely, the stand-off between Adam Warlock and the Living Tribunal sold fans on the series.

SALES, SALES, SALES

On the footsteps of Infinity Gauntlet, anticipation for the Jim Starlin and Angel Medina run was high. Particularly, the creative team released 42 issues for the series that ran from December 1991 to July 1995.

Though mostly with B-list and C-list characters, the series was among the best sellers in 1992. According to Comichron, Warlock and the Infinity Watch (1991) #1, ranked 41 in sales in December 1991.

Though not one of the most popular comics, it was nonetheless successful in 1992, holding spots in the Top 300 for the year.

Let’s rank Warlock’s formidability with the Infinity Gauntlet.

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FORMIDABILITY

Strength Class: Infinite 100%
Weaknesses: Artificial Being 50%
Quality Opponents: God or Abstract 100%
Limitations: Willpower 100%

SCORE: 75

FORMIDABILITY:

WARRIOR

For the most part, Adam Warlock shares the same physicals as Thanos with the IG. In fact, he possesses Infinite super-strength. At the same time, Eternity’s suit contends his weakness is his mental unstability.

In reality, Eternity is referring to Adam being an artificial being with no experience with human emotion. Despite his power, his emotions let him lose control in the Star Chamber.

However, Adam’s mysticism allows him to overcome Thanos’ power dependency. Thanks to his link to the Soul Gem, Warlock was able to take control of the IG at the end of Infinity Gauntlet.

For that reason, willpower or mind is properly his limitation. And in that sense, he is more formidable with the IG than Thanos. Certainly, his quality opponent in the first issue is Living Tribunal who is a God or Abstract.

QUALITY OPPONENTS

During the entire run, Adam Warlock and the Infinity Watch face a list of cosmic enemies such as the Omega, Man-Beast, Thanos and Magus. For the most part, the enemies are either Cosmic Beings or Skyfathers.

Also, the series centers on the protection of the six Infinity Gems which have been bestowed to different guardians in order to protect from their destructive use together.

In addition, there are questions related to the cosmic hierarchy and how Warlock and the Infinity Watch fit in with cosmic entities such as Galactus, Living Tribunal or Eternity.

FAN RECEPTION

Since its initial release, the comic has remained popular among fans. In fact, it has been collected in Infinity Watch Vol. 1 (Warlock and the Infinity Watch (1992-1995)) and Infinity Watch Vol. 2 (Warlock and the Infinity Watch (1992-1995)).

RECOMMENDATION:

Definitely, collect this cosmic doo-wop comic in single issues or paperback in comic format.

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LINKS

Warlock and the Infinity Watch Vol 1 1 in Marvel Database.
1991 Comic Book Sales to Comics Shops in Comichron.
1992 Comic Book Sales to Comics Shops in Comichron.
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DC vs Marvel: Darkseid, The Boss vs My Boy Thanos!

Darkseid vs Thanos in 'DC Versus Marvel.'
 

DC VS MARVEL

DEATH BATTLE!

IN SUPERVILLAINS

THE TOP A-LIST VILLAINS AT DC AND MARVEL

Darkseid vs Thanos in 'DC Versus Marvel.'
Darkseid vs Thanos in DC Versus Marvel (1996).

In the mega-hit crossover DC Versus Marvel (1996), two powerful abstract entities named the Brothers threatened the existence of the DC and Marvel universes. Namely, in order to decide whose universe survives a contest of champions was decreed by the cosmic entities.

In a series of battles, the heroes of both universes duked it out in outcomes decided by fan-vote. Largely, the battles were a popularity contest though they indeed were fun!

In some respect, one element that has not been appreciated enough is the off-panel confrontation between Darkseid and Thanos. So, let’s ask the obvious question: Who would win in a battle between Darkseid, The Boss vs My Boy Thanos?

Really, both are A-list villains in their respective universes. Namely, Thanos is well known for conquering the Infinity Gauntlet and bringing the Marvel universe to his heel.

At the same time, Darkseid achieved virtual omnipotence in his millennial conquest of the Anti-Life Equation, which threatened the existence of the DC multiverse.

At the same time, Thanos also experienced real victory in Marvel: The End. But since the story is non-canon, we cannot use it to compare both villains.

So, let’s compare Thanos with the IG to Darkseid with the ALE.

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FORMIDABILITY

Generally, formidability is the ability to compete, match and defeat a foe despite overwhelming odds. Usually, formidability indicates a warrior’s ability to defeat a stronger, more powerful and more resourceful enemy.

For this reason, it is almost interchangeable with the Fighting Skills Level. For example, this explains why Batman is able to defeat Killer Croc or Bane who are in fact stronger or more powerful.

Using tactics, training, technology, resources and intel, Batman is usually able to take on more powerful opponents.

Before we rank our two A-list villains, let’s list some rules.

  1. First, the superhero should be able to consistently defeat opponents above their strength class or power level.
  2. In terms of power level or fighting skills, they should have few or no weaknesses.
  3. Consistently, they should face quality opponents that are at least able to destroy a city.
  4. Finally, they should have fewer limitations in power, strength, ability or intelligence.

First, we will compare them in Strength Class, Intelligence, Preparation, Power and Leadership. Then, let’s rank Darkseid and Thanos in Formidability. To note, all scores are rated out of a 100.

1. STRENGTH CLASS

Generally, Darkseid is at least Stellar Level in Super Strength. Regularly, he takes on Superman-level foes and either matches or is below Superman in Super Strength.

At the same time, Orion vs Darkseid showed what happens when the two strongest New Gods unleash their power all-out.

With the ALE, Darkseid is in a human body. Due to those limitations, he is still so powerful that we rated his Super Strength as Irrelevant. At the same time, Darkseid is subject to weakness exploitation with the Radion bullet. In Thanos’ case, his only weakness is mental.

On the other hand, Thanos is often stronger than the strongest warriors in the Earth-616 Universe. In Infinity, Thanos takes on the strongest heroes without the IG: Hulk, Hyperion, Thor.

With the IG, Thanos takes on the entire roster of Marvel’s heroes with just the Power Gem. Hence, he has access to Infinite Super Strength.

ADVANTAGE: THANOS

2. INTELLIGENCE

In the Intelligence department, Darkseid is among the most intelligent beings in the DC Universe.

As a New God, he has access to the Mother Box, the Father Box, the Hellspores, and not to mention he rules the entire planet of Apokolips with its advanced tech, armies and defense systems.

In addition, he regularly spies on New Genesis, intercepts its communications with the nigh-omniscient Source. In Death of The New Gods, Darkseid actually decyphers the language of the Source to claim the Soulfire. And of course, at the start of Final Crisis, he claimed the ALE.

Generally, Thanos is a super-genius. In some sense, Thanos is both a space conqueror and a cosmic being. With Sanctuary, his home ship and various other crafts, he can destroy entire planets. In an Adam Warlock story, Thanos threatened to destroy stars in order to win Death.

Though Thanos’ intelligence is cunning, it does not operate on Darkseid’s scale. Indeed, in Thanos: Redemption, the mad Titan was able to intercept Galactus’ files and figured out they had been tampered with.

Of course, Galactus is an abstract on the level of Eternity. However, there is quite a difference of power and scale between the universal Eternity and the multiversal Source, which is the final frontier of the DCU.

ADVANTAGE: DARKSEID

 

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3. PREPARATION

In terms of strategy and preparation, Darkseid does not compare favorably. In order to gain the IG, Thanos largely operated on his own by besting the Elders of the Universe and other champions in single combat or by outsmarting them.

Though, it took Thanos a relative short amount of time after discovering the Soul Gems in Death‘s realm.

In comparison, it took Darkseid millennia in order to obtain the object of his desire, the destructive Anti-Life Equation. As a New God, he intervened in Earth’s history, guiding it and planning in order to investigate that secret. And he still failed.

In the end, it took the Death of the New Gods and the destruction of the Fourth World by the Source. Only in Heaven was the God of Evil able to conquer his prize.

ADVANTAGE: THANOS

4. POWER

Really, the gap in power between both is striking. Let’s start with Thanos. With the IG, the Mad Titan has Infinite power and is nigh-omnipotent. To this end, he was able to beat Marvel’s heroes.

At the same time, at full power, he was able to defeat the cosmic entities, including Eternity. What is striking, however, is the fact that Thanos was able to affect only one universe and even Living Tribunal, the multiversal Judge, was not involved.

On the other hand, Darkseid with the ALE threatened all reality. That is, he threatened the entirety of the DC multiverse, past, present and future. All the way to Heaven or the Hyperverse.

More importantly, unlike Thanos’ power dependency with the Gauntlet, Darkseid only had to upload the ALE over the Internet and speak it. Horrifyingly, the Earths of the DC multiverse were being dragged to Hell, by sinking into a singularity. How nightmarish!

In the end, all that was left of reality, was the Watchtower floating in space, where Superman and company made their last stand against Darkseid and his forces, even Mandrakk.

ADVANTAGE: DARKSEID

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5. LEADERSHIP

Unquestionably, Darkseid wins in the leadership department. In his case, you actually have to beat him and be more powerful. Only Darkseid has succeeded in opposing everyone against Superman at the end of Final Crisis.

With the ALE, the infected are an extension of Darkseid’s will.

In Thanos’ case, hubris undermine his leadership. Notably, despite having attained supremacy in the Marvel universe, Thanos was still challenged by lesser beings. Though he triumphed over his obstacles.

Ultimately, Thanos unconsciously knew he was not fit for omnipotence and supplied the means to lose the IG.

Definitely, Darkseid is the Boss!

ADVANTAGE: DARKSEID

FORMIDABILITY SCORES

Strength Class: Irrelevant 100%
Weaknesses: Rare Minerals or Elements 75%
Quality Opponents: Reality 100%
Limitations: Weakness Exploitation 83%

SCORE: 79

FORMIDABILITY:

WARRIOR

Strength Class: Infinite 100%
Weaknesses: Hubris 50%
Quality Opponents: God or Abstract 100%
Limitations: Power Dependency 92%

SCORE: 71

FORMIDABILITY:

METAHUMAN

VERDICT:

Darkseid with the ALE is an Abstract in the DC multiverse. Thanos with IG is the Supreme Being of the Marvel universe.

Darkseid wins.

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LINKS

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Under-Appreciated Heroes/Villains: In ‘Marvel: The End,’ #WeDefendThanos’ Sacrifice As Non-Canon

 

UNDER-APPRECIATED HEROES/VILLAINS

Writer(s)

Jim Starlin


Penciler(s)

Jim Starlin


Colorist(s)

Christie Scheele, Heroic Age Studios


Cover

Jim Starlin, Heroic Age Studios


Publisher

Marvel Comics


Publication Date

May, 2003

IN SUPERVILLAINS

#WEDEFENDTHANOS’ SACRIFICE AS NON-CANON

In Marvel Universe: The End (2003), Thanos gains the Heart of the Universe. Eventually, Thanos makes a sacrifice to save the Universe.

With the power source, Thanos effectively becomes omnipotent. Though the act is admirable, let’s list the reasons why the story is non-canon.

5. AKHENATEN

To begin, the first apparent reason is the changed history of pharaoh Akhenaten. Indeed, the basic elements of his story remain the same as Earth-616 continuity. Importantly, he was pharaoh in Egypt and was born in Thebes.

Then, he married Nefertiti. Outrageously, he stopped the polytheistic worship of Amun. Instead, he imposed the monotheistic religion of Aten. Due to his blasphemy, the gods of Egypt cursed him. After, his history diverged.

In 1334 B.C., while in the Valley of the Kings, he was taken by aliens known as the Celestial Order to be one of their chosen representatives. Initially unable to grasp his situation, Akhenaten was driven mad. Upon regaining his wits, Akhenaten was taught of the Heart of the Universe, a powerful cosmic artifact that would turn those who possessed it into a living god on par with the most powerful cosmic entities in the Marvel Universe. His mind danced with insanity for nearly 2000 years as he struggled to understand the scope of the astral revelations showed to him by the Order. He spent one century to master the Heart’s powers and two thousands years to earn the Order’s trust.

-Amenhotep IV (Earth-4321), Marvel Database

4. THE HEART OF THE UNIVERSE

In the six-issue mini-series, Thanos seeks the Heart of the Universe in order to gain ultimate power. In fact, the Heart of the Universe grants its possessor true omnipotence and omniscience over the universe. After possessing the power source, Thanos defeated Akhenaten.

However, this powerful artifact does not exist in the mainstream Marvel Universe. In fact, it appears it can only act on a specific universe. Though, it allows Thanos to absorb all the cosmic entities even the Living Tribunal, the Marvel Multiversal Judge.

3. EARTH-4321

In question, the reality is Earth-4321. When Thanos gains true omnipotence, his senses are heightened to the astral level. Here, he sees all of Marvel Earth-4321’s history and realizes there is a fatal flaw.

Indeed, the continued resurrections of heroes after tragedies have fractured the astral fabric of the universe. For this reason, he laments the Almighty’s actions whom he has replaced.

2. THE ALMIGHTY ABANDONS THE UNIVERSE

In his awesome omniscience, Thanos realizes the One-Above-All has departed the Earth-4321 universe. And unable to repair the fatal flaw, he elects to act in true Thanos fashion: Destroy the universe.

When the heroes and the cosmic entities realize the Mad Titan’s move, they confront him. But, it is too late. True to form, Thanos absorbs the heroes, absorbs the cosmic entities, absorbs even Living Tribunal, and finally the Earth-4321 Universe.

1. THE EDITORIAL TEAM STATED THE STORY IS NON-CANON

In the mini-series, it appears Thanos has the last word. Though he sacrifices himself in the end in order to restore the universe.

Nevertheless, Marvel’s Executive Editor Tom Brevoort has stated that the mini-series is not part of mainstream continuity. Therefore, it is non-canon.

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FOR THANOS: HE SACRIFICED HIMSELF TO RESTORE THE UNIVERSE

At the end of the universe, only Thanos is left. Or so we think. In fact, Adam Warlock and Franklin Richards survived in a parallel dimension. Soon, Adam opens Thanos’ eyes to his foolhardy actions. When he realizes what must be done, Mistress Death appears to both.

For the first time, she speaks and congratulates the Mad Titan. With a final farewell, she kisses her lover then disappears into the nothingness. In order to set the universe aright, Thanos realizes he is the fatal flaw that must finally be extinguished. As he restores the universe, Thanos vanishes leaving no memory of his existence.

Thanos.
Thanos. Marvel Comics.

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AGAINST THANOS: HE DESTROYED THE UNIVERSE

In Marvel Universe: The End (2003) #5, Thanos faces the Marvel Universe assembled. However, the assemblage of Marvel’s cosmic entities and heroes is no match for the Mad Titan.

In his omnipotence, Thanos absorbs the heroes, cosmic entities, including Infinity, Eternity, the Living Tribunal and the universe within himself. Nonetheless, Thanos finds himself in nothingness and grieves his actions.

In 'Marvel Universe: The End' (2003) #5, Thanos faces the Marvel Universe assembled.
In Marvel Universe: The End (2003) #5, Thanos faces the Marvel Universe assembled. Marvel Comics.

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LINKS

Marvel Universe: The End Vol 1 (2003) in Marvel Database.
Amenhotep IV (Earth-4321) in Marvel Database.
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