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Marvel Day List: 5 Myths About The Celestials (Film, TV and Comics)

 

MARVEL DAY

Writer(s)

Jim Starlin


Penciler(s)

George Perez


Letterer(s)

Jack Morelli


Cover

George Perez


Publisher

Marvel Comics


Publication Date

July, 1991

IN READING GUIDES, LISTS, REVIEWS

WHO ARE THE CELESTIALS?

Originally, the Celestials are a race of extra-dimensional gods. Importantly, they created the Prime Marvel Universe.

However, some misconceptions continue about these nigh-omnipotent beings. Let’s list five myths about the Celestials in comics, TV and movies.


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COMICS, FILM AND TV: MYTH #5. THE CELESTIALS HAVE PHYSICAL BODIES

In the Eternals and Guardians of the Galaxy, the Celestials are gigantic space humanoids. In an interview, ScreenRant reveals the Celestials are 200 miles tall. Indeed, this confirms their actual size in the comics. Though, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 and What If…? show that Ego can take the form of a planet and a human-sized form.

However, the Celestials’ physical bodies are actually physical constructs. In the comics, it is revealed that the Celestials’ physical bodies are constructs from extra-dimensional hyper space. In fact,  What If? Newer Fantastic Four (2008) #1, reveals the Celestials’ bodies are moved by willpower or thought.

TV AND FILM: MYTH #4. THE CELESTIALS CREATED THE SIX INFINITY STONES

Perhaps, the most correct myth. In a What If…? episode, Ultron used the Infinity Stones in order to kill Ego the Living Planet. From Avengers: Infinity War, Loki learnt from the Quarry of the Gods that the Celestials created the Six Infinity Stones.

In reality, the Celestials created the Six Singularities before the birth of the Marvel universe. From the Six Singularities, the Six Infinity Stones of infinite power were born. In Guardians of the Galaxy, Eson the Searcher uses the Space Stone to destroy a planet.

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COMICS AND FILM: MYTH #3. THE CELESTIALS ONLY CREATED THE ETERNALS AND THE DEVIANTS

From the Eternals movie, it appears the Celestials only created two races on Earth: the Deviants and the Eternals. In reality, as space Gods, the Celestials created and evolved multiple races throughout the universe.

In the comics, the Celestials are responsible for genetic experiments on homo superior, the mutant race on Marvel Earth. As matter of fact, part of the reason why they are viewed as villains is because they created the X-Men villain named Apocalypse. More on why, the Celestials may or may not be villains.

COMICS AND FILM: MYTH #2. THE CELESTIALS CREATED THE MARVEL MULTIVERSE

Really, this myth is both correct and incorrect. In the Marvel Cinematic Universe, the Celestials created the Big Bang with the Six Singularities. In fact, the Marvel universe is an endless cycle of rebirth and destruction. However, the Celestials have created only one universe in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

In Marvel comics, the Celestials have created the Marvel multiverse. Indeed, they shaped the early cosmos allowing for the multiverse to be created. Though, Secret Wars shows that the Beyonders may have created the Marvel multiverse. In fact, we argue Pre-Retcon Beyonder as Marvel’s God.

 

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COMICS AND FILM: MYTH #1. THE CELESTIALS ARE VILLAINS

In both Marvel comics and the Marvel Cinematic Universe, the Celestials appear as cosmic villains. Though this is correct in the Eternals movie, this myth needs explanation. In reality, the Celestials are both creators and destroyers. Since they created the universe or multiverse, they function according to the laws of evolution.

In the comics, Living Tribunal who is the Cosmic Judge, is responsible for creating and destroying universes to maintain balance. Similarly, the Celestials obey the cycles of creation and destruction of the universe. In effect, they are Gods or Abstracts in the Power Hierarchy. In Thor vs Celestial, we show Exitar the Celestial when he judges the planet Pangoria.


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Overpowered Beings: Cosmic Spider-Man Is #MarvelsMostPowerfulHero

 

OVERPOWERED BEINGS

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THE ENIGMA FORCE CHOSE SPIDER-MAN

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During the Copper Age, Marvel Comics greatly expanded Spider-Man‘s universe: a new love interest in Felicia Hardy, a new and great black costume and even, new powers. Over the years, Spider-Man’s super powers expanded. In Acts Of Vengeance: Spider-Man & The X-Men, the Enigma Force chooses Spider-Man as the new Captain Universe.

Though the story arc was temporary, it shook the status quo in an impressive way.

Post-Secret Wars, Spider-Man fought an increasing darkness from his alien symbiote. At a time when the hero had finally settled into his marriage with Mary Jane. When Peter least expected it, an accident with an extra-dimensional energy source at Empire State University gave him a serious power-up.

For a time, Peter was plagued by frequent spider-sense shocks and became Cosmic Spider-Man. Read our review to find out about this story arc.

OVERPOWERED, COSMIC SPIDER-MAN HAS SKYFATHER POTENTIAL

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Notably, Spider-Man possesses the proportionate super strength, super speed, agility and senses of a spider. Usually, the hero is a Street Level or Team Wrecker in the Power Hierarchy. According to Essential Official Handbook of The Marvel Universe Vol. 2, Deluxe Edition, Spider-Man can lift 10 tons.

In Amazing Spider-Man (1989) #327, Cosmic Spider-Man showcased why he is a Class 100 powerhouse. In a battle against Magneto, the Champion of the Enigma Force effortlessly lifted a cruise ship.

Really, Cosmic Spider-Man showcased Skyfather potential. In fact, he showed the power of reality-warping as he created a lightning bolt by wishing.

Among his super powers are: Planetary Level super strength, super speed, nigh invulnerability, flight, super vision, telescopic vision, super hearing, matter manipulation, energy projection and energy absorption. Later, we will see why he may be #MarvelsMostPowerfulHero.

 

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IN WHAT IF…? COSMIC SPIDER-MAN BECAME #MARVELSMOSTPOWERFULHERO

In 'What If....? (1981) #31, Cosmic Spider-Man defeats Nebula on his own.
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In What If…? (1991) #31, Cosmic Spider-Man is #MarvelsMostPowerfulHero. In an alternate timeline, we find out what would have happened if Spider-Man had kept the Captain Universe powers. Importantly, the Cosmic Being showcased his Skyfather potential by attempting to solve the world’s problems.

Certainly, the heroes of the Marvel Universe opposed Spider-Man despite his benevolence. Soon, Spider-Man is attacked by a Doombot. When the attack fails, the Skyfather realized his humanity and decided to rid himself of his super powers with Doom’s power stealing device.

In the issue, Cosmic Spider-Man effortlessly defeated Nebula, a being powered by an energy source of near-infinite power.

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WHY COSMIC SPIDER-MAN IS AN OVERPOWERED BEING

AFTER A POWERFUL CLASH, HE DEFEATED LOKI’S TRI-SENTINEL

In Amazing Spider-Man (1989) #329, Cosmic Spider-Man explodes Tri-Sentinel in a powerful blast. Marvel Comics.

In Amazing Spider-Man (1989) #329, Cosmic Spider-Man emerges for the first time. During Acts of Vengeance, various villains attack the heroes.

Particularly,  Loki attempted to destroy the mutant race on Earth. After one final cosmic spider shock, Cosmic Spider-Man springs into action. It is Cosmic Spider-Man vs Tri-Sentinel.

After an intense battle against the colossal Tri-Sentinel, Spider-Man delivers an all-out blast that rim-rattles New York City. Definitely, a City Level of Energy Projection.

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IN A SHOWDOWN, COSMIC SPIDER-MAN PUNCHED GREY HULK INTO LOW EARTH ORBIT

In 'Amazing Spider-Man' (1989) #328, Cosmic Spider-Man punches Grey Hulk into orbit.
In Amazing Spider-Man (1989) #328, Cosmic Spider-Man punches Grey Hulk into orbit. Marvel Comics.

In ‘Amazing Spider-Man’ (1989) #328, Grey Hulk challenges #MarvelsMostPowerfulHero. With his new-found powers, Marvel’s villains recruit Hulk to stop Spider-Man.

It is Spider-Man vs Hulk! In titanic battles, Grey Hulk and Cosmic Spider-Man fight. When children are threatened, Spider-Man takes the gloves off. Quickly, he delivers a powerful punch!

Shockingly, the powerful punch lands Grey Hulk in orbit. And Grey Hulk is tough enough to withstand thermite blasts.

Per our calculations, Cosmic Spider-Man performed a Continent-Level of Super Strength with 1.6312706*1015 W of Power.

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IN AN ALTERNATE TIMELINE, COSMIC SPIDER-MAN GENERATED NEAR INFINITE POWER

In 'What If....? (1981) #31, Cosmic Spider-Man defeats Nebula on his own.
In What If….? (1981) #31, Cosmic Spider-Man defeats Nebula on his own. Marvel Comics.

In ‘What If….? (1981) #31, Cosmic Spider-Man defeats Nebula on his own. Importantly, Nebula was powered by an energy source of near-infinite power.

Though the feat occurred in an alternate timeline. Perhaps, Cosmic Spider-Man’s near-infinite power can challenge Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet.

WITH SKYFATHER POTENTIAL, COSMIC SPIDER-MAN HAS REALITY-WARPING POWERS

In 'Web of Spider-Man' (1990) #61, Spider-Man wishes for a lightning bolt.
In Web of Spider-Man (1990) #61, Spider-Man wishes for a lightning bolt. Marvel Comics.

At CBR, Anthony Gramuglia writes Cosmic Spider-Man: How Peter Parker Wielded the Power of Captain Universe. Indeed, he explains the hero’s gain and loss of the Enigma Force.

In Web of Spider-Man (1990) #61, Cosmic Spider-Man shows reality-warping powers. Distraught over the public’s distrust for his new-found powers, Spider-Man wishes for a lightning bolt.

With one powerful blast, he creates a lightning bolt that strikes down on New York. Certainly, Cosmic Spider-Man displayed Skyfather potential.

With his reality-warping, he showed the potential to affect the universal laws. Definitely, since the hero used reality-warping, the feat is City Level.


LINKS

Amazing Spider-Man Vol 1 329 in Marvel Database.
Amazing Spider-Man Vol 1 327 in Marvel Database.
What If…? Vol 1 31 in Marvel Database.
Amazing Spider-Man Vol 1 328 in Marvel Database.
Web of Spider-Man Vol 1 61 in Marvel Database.
Cosmic Spider-Man: How Peter Parker Wielded the Power of Captain Universe in CBR.com.

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The Mightiest Punch!: Who Is The Most Powerful Hero? (DC vs Marvel)

 

THE MIGHTIEST PUNCH!

After the year-long Battle Ranker Competition, Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet emerged as #TheMostPowerfulVillain. Now, our next ranking initiative is to determine #TheMostPowerfulHero.

On December 31st of this year, voting officially begins for The Mightiest Punch! In 2020, Earth-Two Superman won the ranking contest as his Multiversal punch on Anti-Monitor shook fans. This time around, we are doing things different.

In fact, we are asking the fans to rate the Power Level Wikis of 15 DC and 15 Marvel characters according to their possibleness. Indeed, we want to gauge human potential as well as the power of our beloved heroes!

Moreover, we are excited at this new initiative and are committed to our goal of rating the major feats of your favorite superheroes and villains since the Copper Age of Comics. Finally, we want to help fans in their battle discussions and have fun in their debates.

In the end, you decide who is #TheMostPowerfulHero.

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Battle Ranker Competition: It’s Official! Thanos With The Infinity Gauntlet Is The Most Powerful Villain

 

BATTLE RANKER

We Rank Your Favorite Superhero… Or Villain

We rank your favorite superheroes or villains in the Battle Ranker. Vote on our Twitter poll to determine your favorite superhero’s or villain’s Battle Rank!

On April 5th, the Battle Ranker Competition concluded. With 198 votes and five rounds, the year-long competition clashed 50 DC and 50 Marvel characters.

With one decisive vote over Crisis on Infinite Earths Anti-Monitor, Annihilation Silver Surfer and the Watcher, Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet proved to be the Invincible Warrior.

As the winner of the four-way Finals, Thanos earned Infinite Points to battle rank Extra-Dimensional, the highest level of Fighting Skills.

For more information, visit our DC vs Marvel article to see how Darkseid with the Anti-Life Equation vs Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet compare in Formidability Rating.

Importantly, though the Formidability Rating uses the Fighting Skills Scale, it takes into account four areas: Strength Class, Weaknesses, Quality Opponents and Limitations. As such, it is an accurate measure of Fighting Skills.

 

Below you can view our Top 8 from Round 3, which has remained the same in the Semi Finals and the Finals.

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Overpowered Beings: In ‘Secret Wars’, #TheBeyondersCreatedTheUniverse

 

OVERPOWERED BEINGS

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IN COSMIC HIERARCHY

THE BEYONDERS ARE AN EXTRA-DIMENSIONAL RACE OF OMNIPOTENT POWER

In 'New Avengers (2015) #29', the Illuminati meet the Beyonders
In New Avengers (2015) #29, the Illuminati meet the Beyonders. Marvel Comics.

Over the years, Beyonder has undergone multiple ret-cons. In New Avengers (2015) #33, part of the Time Runs Out event, we learn his new origin story:

The being known as the Beyonder is, in fact, a young member of an ancient otherworldly race known as the Beyonders. He was dragged to Earth by the super-villains geniuses group Intel by a tachyon beam meant to attract a Vibranium meteorite.

-Beyonder (Earth-616), Marvel Database

During the Marvel Now! (2012 Event), we learn of the Beyonders’ experiments on the Marvel multiverse. In every universe, they had planted a singularity under the form of Molecule Man. When Molecule Man died, his death would cause the death of the universe.

In effect, the Beyonders planned to witness the destruction of the multiverse.

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OVERPOWERED, THE BEYONDERS CAN DESTROY THE MARVEL MULTIVERSE

In 'New Avengers' (2015) #30, a Beyonder battles.
In New Avengers (2015) #30, a Beyonder battles. Marvel Comics.

Notably, the Beyonders possess Nigh-omnipotence at the Multiversal scale. Importantly, their incredible power allows them to kill Living Tribunal in every universe simultaneously. Their power can defeat the cosmic entities of Eternity and the Celestials of every universe.

In New Avengers (2015) #33, Molecule Man and Doctor Doom journey across the multiverse. In order to stop the Beyonders’ plan, Owen plans to kill every version of himself 25 years in the past.

After seven years in the past, Molecule Man kills another version and an incursion eventually occurs. It is a chain reaction that causes a contraction in the multiverse. With each universe colliding with another, Earth is at the point of impact.

Though the Beyonders did not directly cause the incursion, they ultimately show how powerful their singularity is. As a living bomb, Molecule Man has the power to destroy the infinite Marvel multiverse.

Really, the Beyonders possess nigh-omnipotence: avatar creation, vast energy blasts, super strength, regeneration, super speed, dimensional travel.

 

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HOW THE BEYONDERS’ POWER #CREATEDTHEUNIVERSE

In 'Secret Wars' (2016) #9, Doctor Doom and Mister Fantastic battle in Molecule Man's white hot room.
In Secret Wars (2016) #9, Doctor Doom and Mister Fantastic battle in Molecule Man’s white hot room.

In Secret Wars (2016) #9, Doctor Doom and Mister Fantastic battle in the white hot room. Previously, Doctor Doom used Molecule Man as a bomb to steal the Beyonders’ power. After the incursions, he created Battleworld, where he reigned as God-Doom.

When Mister Fantastic defeats Doom, Molecule Man uses the Beyonders’ omnipotence to recreate a single Marvel universe. Really, this shows the Beyonders have the power to create and to destroy the Marvel universe.

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WHY THE BEYONDERS ARE OVERPOWERED

THE BEYONDERS DECIMATED THE CELESTIAL HOSTS

In New Avengers (2015) #30, the Beyonders decimated the remaining Celestial hosts. Previously, Yellowjacket shrank his size to explore the universe.

Per chance, he found the Builders stumbling on a trap for an enemy. As it happens, it was laid out for the Celestials. Really, the Celestials possess Universal-Level power that can rival the Infinity Gauntlet.

THREE BEYONDERS KILL THE LIVING TRIBUNAL SIMULTANEOUSLY IN EVERY UNIVERSE

In New Avengers (2015) #30, the Beyonders killed Living Tribunal. Previously, Yellowjacket shrank his size to explore the universe.

After the Beyonders had slayed the cosmic entities, Living Tribunal appeared. Incredibly, the battle occurred in every single reality in the Marvel multiverse.

And it took three Beyonders in order to kill Living Tribunal simultaneously in every reality.

Finally, considering Living Tribunal is as powerful as Adam Warlock with the Infinity Gauntlet, the Beyonders are Nigh-Omnipotent in Energy Projection.

THE BEYONDERS BUILT ENTIRE UNIVERSES

Incredibly, the Beyonders have built entire universes.

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DC vs Marvel: Darkseid or Thanos, Who Is The Better Villain? (And First Appearance)

Darkseid vs Thanos in 'DC Versus Marvel.'
 

DC VS MARVEL

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THE TOP A-LIST VILLAINS AT DC AND MARVEL

Darkseid vs Thanos in 'DC Versus Marvel.'

Last month, we ranked the formidabilities in a potential Darkseid vs Thanos battle. And we looked at the characters in continuity at their highest powers: Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet and Darkseid with the Anti-Life Equation.

Now, this month, we look at who between both A-list villains is the better villain.

To this end, we have come up with a villainy score that compares both characters in eight categories: Sales, Origin Story, Character Evolution, Cast, Quality Opponents, Villainy, Power, Popularity. Before we compare our villains let’s list some rules.

  1. The Villainy Score is rated out of 8 points.
  2. For Thanos, we list only the Earth-616 continuity and for Darkseid Post-Crisis, Post-Flashpoint and Rebirth.
  3. Since we are comparing Sales and Popularity, we include the villains’ performance in other media and their Google Search Results.
  4. For Power, we list their highest achievements across Earth-616, Post-Crisis, Post-Flashpoint and Rebirth continuities.

So, let’s compare Darkseid and Thanos in the villainy department.

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Darkseid.

VILLAINY SCORE: 4

SALES

For sales, Darkseid lags behind Thanos. In the comic medium, it appears the God of Evil is selling top dollar. In 2009, Final Crisis ranked 14 on the Top Comics of the year with an estimated 127,000 units sold.

Later, in 2020, the Justice League Dark: Apokolips War animated film made $5,474,989 in Total Estimated Domestic Video Sales. In the movie department, the success of Zack Snyder’s Justice League is not sufficient to overcome the Disney juggernaut.

Thanos.

VILLAINY SCORE: 4

SALES

Though Thanos does not have Darkseid’s level of presence in comics and animation, with fewer comic appearances than Darkseid overall.

At the same time, the Marvel Cinematic Universe has made the villain a pop icon. Together, Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame have brought in about $4.8 billion worldwide.

Likely, this is more than the revenue of all the movies in the DCEU combined.

ADVANTAGE: THANOS

ORIGIN STORY

In some respects, Darkseid’s origin story has been changed over DC continuity.

Post-Crisis, he was Prince Uxas who killed his brother Drax and claimed the Omega Effect. In the New 52, Darkseid was a peasant who ascended to the throne of Apokolips.

For the most part, the New God’s story deserved to be more known.

ORIGIN STORY

Really, Thanos’ origin story is better known. In true Marvel fashion, he is given a character flaw.

Namely, being a Deviant among the perfect Eternals of Titan. For the most part, this explains his descent into villainy. And his affection for the embodiment of Death.

Definitely, he is more fleshed out in his motivations.

 

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ADVANTAGE: THANOS

CHARACTER EVOLUTION

In many respects, both characters have evolved over the years. Namely, it took Darkseid millennia before finally obtaining the ALE.

In the New 52, Darkseid was conquering the DC multiverse, killing versions of Superman in order to find the ALE and Grail.

After Infinite Frontier, DC Comics revealed True Form Darkseid.

CHARACTER EVOLUTION

In addition, Thanos has evolved speedily. Once a third rate villain, he arose to prominence with the conquest of the Cosmic Cube.

Then, he set his sights on the Infinity Gauntlet. Post-IG, the Mad Titan attempted a path of redemption.

However, Thanos Wins revealed a possible future where the villain has eliminated all the heroes in the Marvel Universe.

ADVANTAGE: THANOS

 

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CAST

Really, this is where Darkseid truly separates himself.

Indeed, as a New God and ruler of Apokolips, Darkseid has a colorful cast of characters.

From Desaad, to Granny Goodness, the Female Furies, and his immediate family like his uncle Steppenwolf.

During Jack Kirby’s Fourth World, the cast exemplified the type of cosmic opera that the New Gods can be.

CAST

Tragically, Thanos has remained a solitary figure. As a space conqueror, he has assembled the Black Order and conquered civilizations.

In Infinity, he comes to Earth looking for his Inhuman son Thane.

Despite his power, the Mad Titan has often had poor advisors that sought to dethrone him.

ADVANTAGE: DARKSEID

QUALITY OPPONENTS

For the most part, Darkseid has had God in Heaven or Abstracts in the Nil, namely the Monitors, as his quality opponents.

Though it occurred off-panel, Darkseid successfully waged war on Heaven and gained the Anti-Life Equation.

QUALITY OPPONENTS

Unfortunately, Marvel: The End is non-canon. At the same time, with the IG Thanos has successfully conquered the Marvel Universe.

ADVANTAGE: DARKSEID

VILLAINY

In this department, Darkseid figures as pure evil. First, with the Omega Effect he can erase and resurect life.

Second, with the ALE, he can erase free will. Finally, Darkseid constantly evolves into his True Form.

Let’s also add that Darkseid’s Desaad is an expert in torture and mind control.

VILLAINY

In reality, Thanos is psychotic.

Indeed, his lust for power has plagued him with a hubris that ultimately convinces him to be unfit for ultimate power.

In the end, we are assured Than conquers the Marvel Universe. But, Thanos seeks to be a God whereas Darkseid is a God.

ADVANTAGE: DARKSEID

 

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POWER

See our Formidability rating in the previous article.

POWER

See our Formidability rating in the previous article.

ADVANTAGE: DARKSEID

POPULARITY

Generally, Darkseid is more popular in the comic medium. In the Post-Crisis continuity, he boasts 456 Appearances.

However, Google Search Results yield 4,340,000 results.

POPULARITY

In order for Thanos to match his popularity, we must add the Disciple of Death’s 362 Appearances to his 139 Minor Appearances.

As the winner, Google Search Results yield  46,700,000 results.

ADVANTAGE: THANOS

VERDICT:

Though Thanos is more popular and successful in sales, Darkseid is a classic villain who seeks to re-fashion the DC multiverse in his image. Tie.

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The Formidable Warriors List: ‘Warlock and The Infinity Watch’ Was A Commercial Success For Marvel’s Cosmic Stories

 

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THE FORMIDABLE WARRIORS LIST

In our new hotness, we have The Formidable Warriors List. Here, we cover the greatest battles of a particular character in a comic or series, and how it made it a best-seller. In our new hotness for January, is Adam Warlock in Warlock and The Infinity Watch (1991) #1.

First, let’s reveal a poll on Twitter. Then, let’s show how it was a success.

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Warlock and the Infinity Watch (1991) #1. Marvel Comics.

INFINITY GAUNTLET SEQUEL

Namely, Warlock and the Infinity Watch (1991) #1 is the sequel to the classic Infinity Gauntlet story that skyrocketed Thanos into super-stardom in the Marvel Universe. In a few words, Adam Warlock has led the Marvel Universe against the threat of Thanos.

Now, having successfully defeated Thanos and ended the threat, he has claimed the mantle of the Supreme Being of the Marvel Universe with the Infinity Gauntlet. Really, it does not get better than this!

THE BATTLE THAT SOLD THE RUN

Importantly, the abstract stand-off between Adam Warlock and Living Tribunal sold the run from the beginning. Let’s explain. In the Star Chamber, it’s getting hotter.

There, an assemblage of cosmic entities and abstract level beings are hearing Eternity’s suit against Adam Warlock, the Supreme Being. When Eternity questions Warlock’s supemacy, Adam’s temper fires a powerful blast that fells everyone.

However, with a snap, Living Tribunal restores order.

In Warlock and the Infinity Watch (1991) #1, Living Tribunal restores order with a finger snap. Marvel Comics.

Then, Eternity presents his case detailing Warlock’s creation, character evolution, his sado-masochistic tendencies as well as his darkest secret. After he has finished his suit, the powerful stand-off of unimaginable might between two omnipotent beings follows!

In 'Warlock and The Infinity Watch (1992) #1, the confrontation between the Living Tribunal and Adam Warlock with the Infinity Gauntlet would lay waste to reality.
In Warlock and the Infinity Watch (1991) #1, Adam Warlock and Living Tribunal stand-off. Marvel Comics.

Certainly, you will have to read the issue to see how it ends. However, the first issue does set the tone for the run and does reveal the creative team’s ambitions. Definitely, the stand-off between Adam Warlock and the Living Tribunal sold fans on the series.

SALES, SALES, SALES

On the footsteps of Infinity Gauntlet, anticipation for the Jim Starlin and Angel Medina run was high. Particularly, the creative team released 42 issues for the series that ran from December 1991 to July 1995.

Though mostly with B-list and C-list characters, the series was among the best sellers in 1992. According to Comichron, Warlock and the Infinity Watch (1991) #1, ranked 41 in sales in December 1991.

Though not one of the most popular comics, it was nonetheless successful in 1992, holding spots in the Top 300 for the year.

Let’s rank Warlock’s formidability with the Infinity Gauntlet.

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FORMIDABILITY

Strength Class: Infinite 100%
Weaknesses: Artificial Being 50%
Quality Opponents: God or Abstract 100%
Limitations: Willpower 100%

SCORE: 75

FORMIDABILITY:

WARRIOR

For the most part, Adam Warlock shares the same physicals as Thanos with the IG. In fact, he possesses Infinite super-strength. At the same time, Eternity’s suit contends his weakness is his mental unstability.

In reality, Eternity is referring to Adam being an artificial being with no experience with human emotion. Despite his power, his emotions let him lose control in the Star Chamber.

However, Adam’s mysticism allows him to overcome Thanos’ power dependency. Thanks to his link to the Soul Gem, Warlock was able to take control of the IG at the end of Infinity Gauntlet.

For that reason, willpower or mind is properly his limitation. And in that sense, he is more formidable with the IG than Thanos. Certainly, his quality opponent in the first issue is Living Tribunal who is a God or Abstract.

QUALITY OPPONENTS

During the entire run, Adam Warlock and the Infinity Watch face a list of cosmic enemies such as the Omega, Man-Beast, Thanos and Magus. For the most part, the enemies are either Cosmic Beings or Skyfathers.

Also, the series centers on the protection of the six Infinity Gems which have been bestowed to different guardians in order to protect from their destructive use together.

In addition, there are questions related to the cosmic hierarchy and how Warlock and the Infinity Watch fit in with cosmic entities such as Galactus, Living Tribunal or Eternity.

FAN RECEPTION

Since its initial release, the comic has remained popular among fans. In fact, it has been collected in Infinity Watch Vol. 1 (Warlock and the Infinity Watch (1992-1995)) and Infinity Watch Vol. 2 (Warlock and the Infinity Watch (1992-1995)).

RECOMMENDATION:

Definitely, collect this cosmic doo-wop comic in single issues or paperback in comic format.

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LINKS

Warlock and the Infinity Watch Vol 1 1 in Marvel Database.
1991 Comic Book Sales to Comics Shops in Comichron.
1992 Comic Book Sales to Comics Shops in Comichron.
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DC vs Marvel: Darkseid, The Boss vs My Boy Thanos!

Darkseid vs Thanos in 'DC Versus Marvel.'
 

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THE TOP A-LIST VILLAINS AT DC AND MARVEL

Darkseid vs Thanos in 'DC Versus Marvel.'
Darkseid vs Thanos in DC Versus Marvel (1996).

In the mega-hit crossover DC Versus Marvel (1996), two powerful abstract entities named the Brothers threatened the existence of the DC and Marvel universes. Namely, in order to decide whose universe survives a contest of champions was decreed by the cosmic entities.

In a series of battles, the heroes of both universes duked it out in outcomes decided by fan-vote. Largely, the battles were a popularity contest though they indeed were fun!

In some respect, one element that has not been appreciated enough is the off-panel confrontation between Darkseid and Thanos. So, let’s ask the obvious question: Who would win in a battle between Darkseid, The Boss vs My Boy Thanos?

Really, both are A-list villains in their respective universes. Namely, Thanos is well known for conquering the Infinity Gauntlet and bringing the Marvel universe to his heel.

At the same time, Darkseid achieved virtual omnipotence in his millennial conquest of the Anti-Life Equation, which threatened the existence of the DC multiverse.

At the same time, Thanos also experienced real victory in Marvel: The End. But since the story is non-canon, we cannot use it to compare both villains.

So, let’s compare Thanos with the IG to Darkseid with the ALE.

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FORMIDABILITY

Generally, formidability is the ability to compete, match and defeat a foe despite overwhelming odds. Usually, formidability indicates a warrior’s ability to defeat a stronger, more powerful and more resourceful enemy.

For this reason, it is almost interchangeable with the Fighting Skills Level. For example, this explains why Batman is able to defeat Killer Croc or Bane who are in fact stronger or more powerful.

Using tactics, training, technology, resources and intel, Batman is usually able to take on more powerful opponents.

Before we rank our two A-list villains, let’s list some rules.

  1. First, the superhero should be able to consistently defeat opponents above their strength class or power level.
  2. In terms of power level or fighting skills, they should have few or no weaknesses.
  3. Consistently, they should face quality opponents that are at least able to destroy a city.
  4. Finally, they should have fewer limitations in power, strength, ability or intelligence.

First, we will compare them in Strength Class, Intelligence, Preparation, Power and Leadership. Then, let’s rank Darkseid and Thanos in Formidability. To note, all scores are rated out of a 100.

1. STRENGTH CLASS

Generally, Darkseid is at least Stellar Level in Super Strength. Regularly, he takes on Superman-level foes and either matches or is below Superman in Super Strength.

At the same time, Orion vs Darkseid showed what happens when the two strongest New Gods unleash their power all-out.

With the ALE, Darkseid is in a human body. Due to those limitations, he is still so powerful that we rated his Super Strength as Irrelevant. At the same time, Darkseid is subject to weakness exploitation with the Radion bullet. In Thanos’ case, his only weakness is mental.

On the other hand, Thanos is often stronger than the strongest warriors in the Earth-616 Universe. In Infinity, Thanos takes on the strongest heroes without the IG: Hulk, Hyperion, Thor.

With the IG, Thanos takes on the entire roster of Marvel’s heroes with just the Power Gem. Hence, he has access to Infinite Super Strength.

ADVANTAGE: THANOS

2. INTELLIGENCE

In the Intelligence department, Darkseid is among the most intelligent beings in the DC Universe.

As a New God, he has access to the Mother Box, the Father Box, the Hellspores, and not to mention he rules the entire planet of Apokolips with its advanced tech, armies and defense systems.

In addition, he regularly spies on New Genesis, intercepts its communications with the nigh-omniscient Source. In Death of The New Gods, Darkseid actually decyphers the language of the Source to claim the Soulfire. And of course, at the start of Final Crisis, he claimed the ALE.

Generally, Thanos is a super-genius. In some sense, Thanos is both a space conqueror and a cosmic being. With Sanctuary, his home ship and various other crafts, he can destroy entire planets. In an Adam Warlock story, Thanos threatened to destroy stars in order to win Death.

Though Thanos’ intelligence is cunning, it does not operate on Darkseid’s scale. Indeed, in Thanos: Redemption, the mad Titan was able to intercept Galactus’ files and figured out they had been tampered with.

Of course, Galactus is an abstract on the level of Eternity. However, there is quite a difference of power and scale between the universal Eternity and the multiversal Source, which is the final frontier of the DCU.

ADVANTAGE: DARKSEID

 

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3. PREPARATION

In terms of strategy and preparation, Darkseid does not compare favorably. In order to gain the IG, Thanos largely operated on his own by besting the Elders of the Universe and other champions in single combat or by outsmarting them.

Though, it took Thanos a relative short amount of time after discovering the Soul Gems in Death‘s realm.

In comparison, it took Darkseid millennia in order to obtain the object of his desire, the destructive Anti-Life Equation. As a New God, he intervened in Earth’s history, guiding it and planning in order to investigate that secret. And he still failed.

In the end, it took the Death of the New Gods and the destruction of the Fourth World by the Source. Only in Heaven was the God of Evil able to conquer his prize.

ADVANTAGE: THANOS

4. POWER

Really, the gap in power between both is striking. Let’s start with Thanos. With the IG, the Mad Titan has Infinite power and is nigh-omnipotent. To this end, he was able to beat Marvel’s heroes.

At the same time, at full power, he was able to defeat the cosmic entities, including Eternity. What is striking, however, is the fact that Thanos was able to affect only one universe and even Living Tribunal, the multiversal Judge, was not involved.

On the other hand, Darkseid with the ALE threatened all reality. That is, he threatened the entirety of the DC multiverse, past, present and future. All the way to Heaven or the Hyperverse.

More importantly, unlike Thanos’ power dependency with the Gauntlet, Darkseid only had to upload the ALE over the Internet and speak it. Horrifyingly, the Earths of the DC multiverse were being dragged to Hell, by sinking into a singularity. How nightmarish!

In the end, all that was left of reality, was the Watchtower floating in space, where Superman and company made their last stand against Darkseid and his forces, even Mandrakk.

ADVANTAGE: DARKSEID

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5. LEADERSHIP

Unquestionably, Darkseid wins in the leadership department. In his case, you actually have to beat him and be more powerful. Only Darkseid has succeeded in opposing everyone against Superman at the end of Final Crisis.

With the ALE, the infected are an extension of Darkseid’s will.

In Thanos’ case, hubris undermine his leadership. Notably, despite having attained supremacy in the Marvel universe, Thanos was still challenged by lesser beings. Though he triumphed over his obstacles.

Ultimately, Thanos unconsciously knew he was not fit for omnipotence and supplied the means to lose the IG.

Definitely, Darkseid is the Boss!

ADVANTAGE: DARKSEID

FORMIDABILITY SCORES

Strength Class: Irrelevant 100%
Weaknesses: Rare Minerals or Elements 75%
Quality Opponents: Reality 100%
Limitations: Weakness Exploitation 83%

SCORE: 79

FORMIDABILITY:

WARRIOR

Strength Class: Infinite 100%
Weaknesses: Hubris 50%
Quality Opponents: God or Abstract 100%
Limitations: Power Dependency 92%

SCORE: 71

FORMIDABILITY:

METAHUMAN

VERDICT:

Darkseid with the ALE is an Abstract in the DC multiverse. Thanos with IG is the Supreme Being of the Marvel universe.

Darkseid wins.

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Power Level Explained: Thanos, ‘Infinity Gauntlet’ #1

 
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In ‘Infinity Gauntlet’ (1991) #1, Thanos performs an energy projection feat. Becoming God, Thanos snaps his fingers to erase half the population in the Milky Way galaxy. AP Photo/Marvel Comics.

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It’s the Avengers, the New Warriors, the X-Men and more against the omnipotent Eternal, Thanos! The Mad Titan has become the most powerful being in the universe, and enslavement or destruction may be the only choices he gives it! The successive Starlin sagas that shook space and time start here!

First, the original comic that “Avengers: Infinity War” is based upon. Spectacularly, witness comic history in the pages of Marvel fiction. Indeed, “Infinity Gauntlet” changed the way we look at villains. Moreover, the graphic novel made Thanos an A-list villain in the Marvel Universe.

Gloriously, Jim Starlin and George Perez collaborate to bring a timeless story. “Infinity Gauntlet” is about omnipotence, the lust for power and nihilism. With the Infinity Gauntlet, the mad Titan has achieved godhood. However, his first act of supremacy is to obey Mistress Death’s wishes. To sum, the Thanos Snap erases half of the population of the universe! The graphic novel that started the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Certainly, this is an event you do not want to miss. Finally, share this graphic novel with fans of the Marvel Cinematic Universe and at watch parties. It is definitely worth its price and will leave you wanting for more Thanos! And Adam Warlock!

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  • “Infinity Gauntlet.”
  • Publisher: Marvel Comics.
  • Language: English.
  • Print Length: 256 pages.
  • Paperback format with a 15% discount.
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  • Publication Date: September 28, 2011.
  • Grade Level: 8 and up.
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OUR REVIEW

Spectacularly, “Infinity Gauntlet” made us believe in villains. Moreover, villains can be the heroes of their own stories. In fact, this graphic novel is quality art with a focus on story-telling and action. Marvel comics gathered an ensemble cast under Adam Warlock’s leadership. In the end, this graphic novel will simply marvel you.

In fact, it is a good starting point for fans starting their Thanos collection. Moreover, “Infinity Gauntlet” was the inspiration for the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Finally, the mad Titan emerges as the complex yet triumphant supervillain in the Marvel Universe. Also, this is the essential graphic novel in order to build your Marvel comics collection.

CUSTOMER REVIEWS

This product has excellent reviews and has 4028 global ratings. In addition, it has an average customer review rating of 4.8 out of 5. There is a great satisfaction with the product.

On the one hand, one customer review said: “There’s a good chance you stumbled upon this review because you recently saw (or plan to see) the film, “Avengers: Infinity War,” and you’d like to know how things play out in the source material. First of all, if you enjoy comics, particularly the Marvel universe, then I definitely recommend picking up this paperback.”

“While many big events get overhyped and turn out to be disappointing, Infinity Gauntlet actually left many fans very satisfied. There’s a lot of story buildup, not tons of fighting, but we enjoy seeing so many characters coming together to defeat Thanos, a villain who is seemingly invincible. This book collects all 6 issues, which only seemed to have a minor contribution to the events that play out in the movie.”

The reviews were overall very positive with 50 negative reviews. In contrast, a problem cited by a negative review was the poor resolution on Kindle: “Don’t buy it on Kindle, many pages are in such terrible resolution they’re unreadable. And the Kindle program doesn’t have a zooming feature.”

Overall, this graphic novel was great.

CONCLUSION


POSITIVE:

  • Paperback format available.
  • 15% discount on Paperback format.
  • Essential reading for the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

NEGATIVE:

  • Poor resolution for Kindle format.

OUR PRODUCT REVIEW RATING:


I recommend this graphic novel as one of the greatest graphic novels in comic book history.


























Rating: 5 out of 5.


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